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he met nelson mandela shooting his film 12 disciples of nelson mandela. well, it is a pleasure to talk to you, what are your moments at this hour? >> well, deeply saddened with this great man, he stood for so much. and his vision was so powerful. all the years and also -- becoming president and giving up the power. >> the power -. >> and i think it is so t for our people. >> and we have such a great loss. >> hang on, i know you want to echo this point. it was a big deal. >> yeah. and stepping down may have been his biggest legacy. and -- about 80% of them stayed on about nine terms too long. >> we were just talking about zimbabwe. >> when he came on, he held a lot of prompt, nelson -- look, he was an older guy, he put in his time 27 years at rob been island and being president. the fact that he moved on, there are nobody who perfect what has happened in south africa, and that his successors lived up to his mantle, but at least he had successors. >> yeah, i would agree. you know he -- when nelson mandela was went underground after sharkville, the south afr
he met nelson mandela shooting his film 12 disciples of nelson mandela. well, it is a pleasure to talk to you, what are your moments at this hour? >> well, deeply saddened with this great man, he stood for so much. and his vision was so powerful. all the years and also -- becoming president and giving up the power. >> the power -. >> and i think it is so t for our people. >> and we have such a great loss. >> hang on, i know you want to echo this point. it was a big...
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not only nelson mandela the political leader, not only nelson mandela the former president of south africa, but for nelson mandela, the father of the nation. nelson mandela put his life on the line to bring an end to apartheid and minority white dominance in the country. on thelooks back segregation that brought the country worldwide infamy. >> apartheid was efficiently born in 1948. it divided south african society into four races -- white, black, colored, asian. public places such as the beach and cinemas and hotels were largely reserved for whites. blacks were not allowed to vote or hold property in white areas. many black people were resettled .n reservations the government granted independence to four of them but then used the independence to strip many black south africans of their citizenship. economic and commercial needs required a black workforce, which cause many black families to be separated. it was a terrible system for family life. just look at what happens to black workers in the mines. they were all taken and were living in hostels next to the minds whether families -- whi
not only nelson mandela the political leader, not only nelson mandela the former president of south africa, but for nelson mandela, the father of the nation. nelson mandela put his life on the line to bring an end to apartheid and minority white dominance in the country. on thelooks back segregation that brought the country worldwide infamy. >> apartheid was efficiently born in 1948. it divided south african society into four races -- white, black, colored, asian. public places such as...
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nelson mandela, the u.n. secretary general, was he making a statement of the passing, just let me know. let me bring in my colleague morgan ratford. lived and talks -- i did not know this, in south africa. morgan, what are your thoughts in. >> there was in 2010, i was there as a full right and i taught at the university in turban. i was also living in johan news burg during the time of the world cup. offs friend of the mandela family, and as greg mentioned this is a very interesting time for this to be happening in south africa. as greg mentioned the anc is going through a very tumultuous period. and mandela was their symbol of hope. >> a lot to ask you, but i believe the secretary of united nations is talking about the passing of nelson mandela. >> aspirations of the united nations. he shows what is possible for our world, and we didn't within each one of us, if we believe, a three man work together for justice and humanity. he is more decisive, in dismantling the system of apartheid. he marched from detenti
nelson mandela, the u.n. secretary general, was he making a statement of the passing, just let me know. let me bring in my colleague morgan ratford. lived and talks -- i did not know this, in south africa. morgan, what are your thoughts in. >> there was in 2010, i was there as a full right and i taught at the university in turban. i was also living in johan news burg during the time of the world cup. offs friend of the mandela family, and as greg mentioned this is a very interesting time...
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nelson mandela was 95 years old. he has been suffering from a very serious illness for the last six months, particularly badly. and so this was a predictable piece of news, but painful nonetheless, so painful for south africans who call nelson mandela the father of their nation, the father of democracy. the man who was in 27 years in prison, much of it spent in solitary confinement. helped to end the years of racist rule by the apartheid regime in south africa. and for that, there are so many millions of south africans who owe him so much. >> it's profoundly moving to see the generation that you were referring to born free outside of the home of mandela. it's so striking. there is so few examples of the kind of liberation in the last 20 years. there's almost nothing that compares to it in terms of the change brought about in the fates and futures and lives of every one of these people by mandela and his co-strugglers in this great struggle. >> reporter: that's right. there is no one in the world like nelson mandela a
nelson mandela was 95 years old. he has been suffering from a very serious illness for the last six months, particularly badly. and so this was a predictable piece of news, but painful nonetheless, so painful for south africans who call nelson mandela the father of their nation, the father of democracy. the man who was in 27 years in prison, much of it spent in solitary confinement. helped to end the years of racist rule by the apartheid regime in south africa. and for that, there are so many...
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and wen thun day nelson mandela walked into his office. he realized that's the guy. >> reporter: he becomes mandela's mentor and encourages him to earn a law degree. he also introduces mandela to his young cousin, evelyn masi. the two marry in 1946 and welcomed their first child, a son, that same year. their family will eventually grow to include another son and a daughter. another daughter had been born in 1947 but died within a year. racism and segregation had existed in south africa for as long as there had been white settlers, the majority of them were descendants of the dutch and call themselves afrikaners. in 1948 the national party sweeps boo powers and codifies those apartheid policies into law. >> they were trying to achieve this kind of ethnic fragmentation of the country here in order to give the afrikaner nation its own homeland. >> reporter: the anc seeks to counter the new nationalist government. in 1952, the anc embarks on the defiance campaign, an ambitious campaign to mobilize their countrymen to defy unjust apartheid laws
and wen thun day nelson mandela walked into his office. he realized that's the guy. >> reporter: he becomes mandela's mentor and encourages him to earn a law degree. he also introduces mandela to his young cousin, evelyn masi. the two marry in 1946 and welcomed their first child, a son, that same year. their family will eventually grow to include another son and a daughter. another daughter had been born in 1947 but died within a year. racism and segregation had existed in south africa...
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mandela. >> what in your view was nelson mandela's legacy? >> that person who had any other means of survival could fight the racism in this country, spend 27 years in prison and come back and not revenge on the people that emprisoned him, that i think for me that [ inaudible ] should not happen if we follow the legacy of what nelson mandela stood for. >> about half of the current population wasn't even born when nelson mandela was in power, but his ideas, visions and legacy live on. >> nicholas is in the capitol where people also revere mandela. >> this is one of the main arteries here, and it is named after nelson mandela. this road leads to this building, the national assembly. it's more than a symbol. it's a tribute to those who look for peace and dialogue before violence and conflict. wh nelson mandela came here in 1962 for the first time. and he came to get support - support -support -- [ technical difficulties ] >> here he is revered just like everywhere else in the world. he came here and went straight to an aland where slaves were ta
mandela. >> what in your view was nelson mandela's legacy? >> that person who had any other means of survival could fight the racism in this country, spend 27 years in prison and come back and not revenge on the people that emprisoned him, that i think for me that [ inaudible ] should not happen if we follow the legacy of what nelson mandela stood for. >> about half of the current population wasn't even born when nelson mandela was in power, but his ideas, visions and legacy...
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we will have a lot more on nelson mandela in just a moment. but there is some breaking news this morning on two fronts, afghanistan and iran. we want to go first to liz palmer who is just arrived in tehran. >> the first big milestone in the post geneva era of nuclear cooperation between iran and the west have been passed, bob. there is a highly controversial reactor outside of tehran which could in the end produce plutonium which could be used for a bomb. it's been off limits to the international agency inspectors, but today they were allowed access to the site. i should stress that this deal, this cooperative deal is not universally popular here in iran. the president gave a big speech at a university yesterday and he was heckled by hardliners who really feel as if his reformist government has sold out. he was also heckled by students who want more reforms, political and economic and they want them faster. which really underlines how he is going to have to tread a very clever, diplomatic path from here on in. >> schieffer: all right. liz palm
we will have a lot more on nelson mandela in just a moment. but there is some breaking news this morning on two fronts, afghanistan and iran. we want to go first to liz palmer who is just arrived in tehran. >> the first big milestone in the post geneva era of nuclear cooperation between iran and the west have been passed, bob. there is a highly controversial reactor outside of tehran which could in the end produce plutonium which could be used for a bomb. it's been off limits to the...
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. >> nelson mandela and the new president is no nelson mandela. south africa has some problems in front of of them. >> we'll take a break. after a break, this is al jazeera america. >> we are back, welcome back to the continuing coverage of the death of nelson mandela. look at this. this is the apollo theatre in harlem. >> that's beautiful. >> memory of nelson mandela. >> remember the days before apartheid was over, you could go to harlem and buy the stalls that the guys were selling, "free nelson mandela." it was nelson mandela central. >> i was actually in a room, in a theatre, and i can't remember the year. i've been trying to think of the year, and he was there. i saw stephen harper of canada, all of canada mourns with the family, and the citizens of south africa, the world had lost one of its great moral leaders. do we have a picture of nelson mandela the rugby team? >> yeah, there was a movie made about that. >> yes. >> this is just a very telling moment. black people in south africa, played soccer, that's the june form that he is wearing wh
. >> nelson mandela and the new president is no nelson mandela. south africa has some problems in front of of them. >> we'll take a break. after a break, this is al jazeera america. >> we are back, welcome back to the continuing coverage of the death of nelson mandela. look at this. this is the apollo theatre in harlem. >> that's beautiful. >> memory of nelson mandela. >> remember the days before apartheid was over, you could go to harlem and buy the stalls...
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the nelson mandela children's fund was never work for him. all those appearances, and i would than him -- and i had been with him many times, he just love children. you'd walk out of the house and the security detail would be seared -- furious with him, you go for a walk and ring people's doorbells. it would open the door and he would say hi, i am nelson mandela. >> i knew him long enough ago when people did not know him when he rang the doorbell's. >> this was what year? and 1993. when we stayed outside of where he built his house, we would take these very long early morning walks, and i mean early, 4:30 a.m., 5:00 a.m., and we would walk to different villages. people did not know who we was. i thought he was a visiting chief. he loved it. he could not love it more when someone did not recognize him. out, i think he is better with four-year-olds the 94-year-olds. [laughter] he loved children and he loved holding them. there is a wonderful story that not many people know. on the day of his relief -- release, february 11, he was supposed to gi
the nelson mandela children's fund was never work for him. all those appearances, and i would than him -- and i had been with him many times, he just love children. you'd walk out of the house and the security detail would be seared -- furious with him, you go for a walk and ring people's doorbells. it would open the door and he would say hi, i am nelson mandela. >> i knew him long enough ago when people did not know him when he rang the doorbell's. >> this was what year? and 1993....
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nelson mandela married a gain. the bride was graca mandela, a union celebrated by all. >> my wife and i. >> a union that lasted for the rest of his life. >> my wife and i say thank you very much. >> but before he died there was a chance for the world to thank him. on a chilly winter's night nelson mandela made a last appearance at an event. acknowledging the crowd and stirring hearts as the world cup football final was held for the first time in africa. staging a number of miles away from the sow wetto home where nelson mandela lived. in recent times there was a fleeting sight of ambulances carrying him to and from hospital. a chest infection diagnosed when he was in prison continuing to reoccur. the images were broadcast on state television, a grinning jacob zuma visiting his presidential predecessor, unaware of what was going on around him. the only visible reaction to the flash of a camera as nelson mandela was thrown into the public domain. the images come and go. this will be left behind, the colours of a demo
nelson mandela married a gain. the bride was graca mandela, a union celebrated by all. >> my wife and i. >> a union that lasted for the rest of his life. >> my wife and i say thank you very much. >> but before he died there was a chance for the world to thank him. on a chilly winter's night nelson mandela made a last appearance at an event. acknowledging the crowd and stirring hearts as the world cup football final was held for the first time in africa. staging a number...
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it quickly gathered pace ♪ free nelson mandela ♪ 21 years in captivity >> reporter: and nelson mandela became the most famous political prisoner on the planet. within months of his release he was holding peace talks and then in 1994 with apartheid abollished nelson mandela became president himself after south africa's first all race elections. >> i have fought very firmly against white domination. i have fought very firmly against black domination. i cherish the idea of the new south africa where all south africans are equal. >> reporter: nelson mandela served just one five year term but remained perhaps the most influential figure in south african politics. certainly the most loved for what he went through, the dignity he displayed, and the change he brought about. but typically for him, mandela gave all the credit to his fellow citizens. >> south africa pass the generations, but it is you, the people, who are the true heros. >> serving one term but very influential. our senior foreign correspondence. i'm being told he is not available right now. we do have a live reporter there on th
it quickly gathered pace ♪ free nelson mandela ♪ 21 years in captivity >> reporter: and nelson mandela became the most famous political prisoner on the planet. within months of his release he was holding peace talks and then in 1994 with apartheid abollished nelson mandela became president himself after south africa's first all race elections. >> i have fought very firmly against white domination. i have fought very firmly against black domination. i cherish the idea of the new...
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is embracing the current wife of nelson mandela. >> it was a matter of great pain to nelson mandela when he came out of prison because she had her intentions elsewhere. she also was heavily criticized about the so-called mandela united football club which was her vigilante protection group and there was a trial because one of the boys had been kidnapped and killed. >> i thought she was convicted for fraud and corruption? >> yes. >> when you read the letters, winnie and mandela wrote to each other in prison, there is a lot of passion and a lot of longing. >> they are extraordinary. >> they are extraordinarily personal letters. most all of them read by the apartheid authorities but that dent stop them having a love affair over 27 years from afar. it was said that when he came out and their marriage didn't work, he said that he was the loneliest he's ever been in his life in last years of their marriage. that said, they always remained close and she has been there, i understand, at the house every day this week. and has been a part of his life since their divorce. >> the press conferen
is embracing the current wife of nelson mandela. >> it was a matter of great pain to nelson mandela when he came out of prison because she had her intentions elsewhere. she also was heavily criticized about the so-called mandela united football club which was her vigilante protection group and there was a trial because one of the boys had been kidnapped and killed. >> i thought she was convicted for fraud and corruption? >> yes. >> when you read the letters, winnie and...
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this morning we remember nelson mandela. in life he united south africa and the world and his legacy as a fighter for freedom will continue to resonate well after his death. icon, legend, hero. none of those words seem quite big enough to describe a man who changed the world. ♪ and yet in the streets of johannesburg, the crowds are celebratory. south africa planning ten days of mourning. mandela's body will lie in state with leaders from all over the world expected to pay respects. here in the united states, flags are flying at half staff. mandela had a huge impact on president obama inspiring him to public service. the two only met once in 2005 when president obama was then senator obama. >> i am one of the countless millions who drew inspiration from nelson mandela's life. my very first political action, the first thing i ever did that involved an issue or policy or politics was a protest against apartheid. >> mandela spent 27 years behind bars for treason, for backing an anti-apartheid charter. he was finally released f
this morning we remember nelson mandela. in life he united south africa and the world and his legacy as a fighter for freedom will continue to resonate well after his death. icon, legend, hero. none of those words seem quite big enough to describe a man who changed the world. ♪ and yet in the streets of johannesburg, the crowds are celebratory. south africa planning ten days of mourning. mandela's body will lie in state with leaders from all over the world expected to pay respects. here in...
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there is the myth of nelson mandela, there is the reality of nelson mandela, and then is the nelson mandela that you knew and there is the nelson mandela who obviously understood who he was and what he was and had time to reflect on all of this. tell me about the man, just -- >> well, i have been -- i have talked a lot, i have talked to you about -- >> rose: this morning. >> about the myth of him being a st. he hated being called a saint, and he wasn't a saint. he wasn't a saint for all kind of reasons, in terms of his own private behavior, which doesn't even matter, but he wasn't a saint because he was ultimaly a pragmatic politician. he, you know, people compare him to gandhi, people compare him to martin luther king, he said to me, he said, for those men, nonviolence was a principle. for me, nonviolence was a tactic. i used it as long as it was successful, but when it stopped being successful, i turned the anc into a military armed wing because my plate goal, my overriding principle was premium for my people and justice for my people and anything that would get me there was what road i w
there is the myth of nelson mandela, there is the reality of nelson mandela, and then is the nelson mandela that you knew and there is the nelson mandela who obviously understood who he was and what he was and had time to reflect on all of this. tell me about the man, just -- >> well, i have been -- i have talked a lot, i have talked to you about -- >> rose: this morning. >> about the myth of him being a st. he hated being called a saint, and he wasn't a saint. he wasn't a...
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the car door open, nelson mandela popped out, the date of his release, and he said, i am nelson mandela. may i hold your baby? he took this adorable girl in his arms, and then asked directions to the grand parade? he had not held a baby and 27 years. >> years later, he wanted to go on vacation, but he wanted to go where the family could be quiet and not been nelson mandela. we get a call that night. it is a very emotional call. the family is very excited because it is the first time he had ever set foot in the ocean, put his foot in the ocean. >> and he is like 70 something years old? >> it'd been like 40 years, he had never been in the ocean. by that time, his legs were hard to move and stuff like that. he was just so boyish with the fact that he got to walk in the ocean. >> no one knows what it is to be imprisoned and have none of those things. things we just consider part of life, foot in the ocean, holding a baby. did he choose history or did history choose him? >> more than most. i'm a big fan of the expression, come at the moment, come at the man. when young nelson mandella first
the car door open, nelson mandela popped out, the date of his release, and he said, i am nelson mandela. may i hold your baby? he took this adorable girl in his arms, and then asked directions to the grand parade? he had not held a baby and 27 years. >> years later, he wanted to go on vacation, but he wanted to go where the family could be quiet and not been nelson mandela. we get a call that night. it is a very emotional call. the family is very excited because it is the first time he...
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nelson mandela became one of the greatest. this is tom brokaw reporting on nbc's "nightly news." >> nelson mandela was honored by new york city in a way usually reserved for presidents, astronauts and hometown world series champs. he came here to continue his campaign against apartheid. president bush said u.s. sanctions would stay on until certain additional steps are taken. but for the most part this was a day to celebrate mandela. the man who spent 27 years in prison was given a hero's welcome. governor cuomo calling him a symbol of indestructibility of the human spirit. mandela seemed tired, not quite ready for it all. jesse jackson gave him a hand with his tie. he urged united states to pain main his tough policy against south africa as blacks there struggle for equality. >> the only way in which we can work together on this difficult road is for you to ensure that sanctions are applied. >> mandela! mandela! >> mandela and his wife winnie stopped by a brooklyn high school. they were greeted by 10,000 people. new york city
nelson mandela became one of the greatest. this is tom brokaw reporting on nbc's "nightly news." >> nelson mandela was honored by new york city in a way usually reserved for presidents, astronauts and hometown world series champs. he came here to continue his campaign against apartheid. president bush said u.s. sanctions would stay on until certain additional steps are taken. but for the most part this was a day to celebrate mandela. the man who spent 27 years in prison was...
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mandela nelson mandela was known by many names. isixhosa, the name is troublemaker. nelson is the name given to him on the first day at school by his teacher, giving african children english names. the practice was influenced by british colonials who could not or would not pronounce african names. it is not known why the teacher chose than name. mandiba is a member of a clan, it is much more important than a survey, balls it refers to the ancestors. mandiba was a keefe who ruled in the 18th century. it is considered very polite to use someone's clan name. >> indeed, it is known he preferred to be referred to, you know, addressed with mandiba. >> we have been hearing that with colin powell and a lot of people who had contact with him over a period of time. paul clinton called him mandiba as well. >> something that struck me, if he truly wants to know who he is or his character was to hear him speak, you get a real sense of who he was came out. he was so tried to his traditional rural roots. he was a complex man, a deep man. we will
mandela nelson mandela was known by many names. isixhosa, the name is troublemaker. nelson is the name given to him on the first day at school by his teacher, giving african children english names. the practice was influenced by british colonials who could not or would not pronounce african names. it is not known why the teacher chose than name. mandiba is a member of a clan, it is much more important than a survey, balls it refers to the ancestors. mandiba was a keefe who ruled in the 18th...
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at the time, nelson mandela was in his early 40s. he had joined the african national congress, the anc, way back in 1944. the anc and the other major organizations opposing apartheid in south africa had been organized as nonviolent movements, nonviolent resistance, and nonviolent organizing. but after sharpville, they decided that maybe that wasn't enough. after sharpville, they decided they would form a paramilitary wing, and nelson mandela was one of the anc leader who is went underground to help start it. they said they would target government buildings and strategic infrastructure and they would try to sabotage the state. after sharpville, the government of south africa started mass arrests of anc leaders and other activists. they banned the anc. they made it illegal to be a member of that group. nelson mandela was arrested for treason in 1961, he was acquitted and he was convicted of traveling illegally. they sentenced him to five years hard labor on south africa's version of alcatraz, which is robin island. while he was already
at the time, nelson mandela was in his early 40s. he had joined the african national congress, the anc, way back in 1944. the anc and the other major organizations opposing apartheid in south africa had been organized as nonviolent movements, nonviolent resistance, and nonviolent organizing. but after sharpville, they decided that maybe that wasn't enough. after sharpville, they decided they would form a paramilitary wing, and nelson mandela was one of the anc leader who is went underground to...
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what did nelson mandela mean for africa? >> nelson mandela is the symbol of freedom in africa. many of the people across the continent rallied behind the veryapartheid struggle, a long struggle. remember, the national african congress actually started in 1914, and the country did not move to nonracial democratic governance until my 294, which was always the goal of the anc. and whether one is from nigeria or tanzania or closer to home, mozambique, across africa people rallied behind the anc in that struggle. i think president mandela stood for freedom, and he now stands for integrity and perseverance. the continent needs to move towards that in terms of the next phase of the struggle, which is political freedom has been achieved now. economic freedom is necessary. >> speak a little about your own experience in relation to the perspective of nelson mandela, particularly when it comes to nonviolent protest, and in violence in africa, as well is the work you have done combating aids in africa. >> i really respect president mandela, again, because of his conviction. he was a person
what did nelson mandela mean for africa? >> nelson mandela is the symbol of freedom in africa. many of the people across the continent rallied behind the veryapartheid struggle, a long struggle. remember, the national african congress actually started in 1914, and the country did not move to nonracial democratic governance until my 294, which was always the goal of the anc. and whether one is from nigeria or tanzania or closer to home, mozambique, across africa people rallied behind the...
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we live up to the ideas nelson mandela lived for. democracy being the key one. >> but still, he was modest without bitterness or revenge for his years of lost freedom, years that he used to study his oppressor and unite a movement. i don't just make things for a living i take pride in them. so when my moderate to severe chronic plaque psoriasis was also on display, i'd had it. i finally had a serious talk with my dermatologist. this time, he prescribed humira-adalimumab. humira helps to clear the surface of my skin by actually working inside my body. in clinical trials, most adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis saw 75% skin clearance. and the majority of people were clear or almost clear in just 4 months. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal events, such as infections, lymphoma, or other types of cancer have happened. blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure have occurred. before starting humira, y
we live up to the ideas nelson mandela lived for. democracy being the key one. >> but still, he was modest without bitterness or revenge for his years of lost freedom, years that he used to study his oppressor and unite a movement. i don't just make things for a living i take pride in them. so when my moderate to severe chronic plaque psoriasis was also on display, i'd had it. i finally had a serious talk with my dermatologist. this time, he prescribed humira-adalimumab. humira helps to...
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in later years he was the ceo of the nelson mandela foundation. peter godwin is a former human rights lawyer in his native zimbab zimbabwe. he became an author. mandela wrote the forward his book. peter binart is at the university of new york. you pointed out that mandela was always different, even in prison you say everybody else wore rumpled clothes. he took pains to iron his clothes. he stood ramrod straight. he had the kind of imperial bearing. your foundation tried to train leaders in mandela's wake. do you think that the drop-off was inevitable ors had south africa taken a particularly bad spiral downward after nelson mandela? >> look, i think as a country we've taken a knock, but i don't think the process has completely and totally derailed. i think it can be put back on track reasonably easy but it will take a huge amount of hard work to do so and i think we have the resources, the personnel resources and the willingness to put it back on track. >> let me ask you, you were in jail for so many years, what does that do to somebody? looking a
in later years he was the ceo of the nelson mandela foundation. peter godwin is a former human rights lawyer in his native zimbab zimbabwe. he became an author. mandela wrote the forward his book. peter binart is at the university of new york. you pointed out that mandela was always different, even in prison you say everybody else wore rumpled clothes. he took pains to iron his clothes. he stood ramrod straight. he had the kind of imperial bearing. your foundation tried to train leaders in...
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dyson, we talk about nelson mandela, the politician, nelson mandela the moral leader. also a man of impeccable psychological insight and emotional intelligence. >> incredible. the kind of arc of his moral intelligence is rather incredible. it's rooted in practical principles but shows what motivates people. how their psychies can be damaged, but also uplifted. in that sense you've got to be a major motivator and inspirer and understand what moves your opponent, what moves your enemy, what moves your ally, and foster the alliances and allegiances necessary to make the nation stronger. i think in that sense he was a remarkable human being. >> and we said, dr. frasier, so much of that gained in prison, so much insight gained in those times in prison, were there any moments -- forgive me if you don't know the answer, but were there any moments when he feared or got close to the breaking point? >> that i don't know. but i can imagine as a human being one would. in 27 years, not just in jail, not just in the cell, but in hard labor. we forget, i think, often that he was out
dyson, we talk about nelson mandela, the politician, nelson mandela the moral leader. also a man of impeccable psychological insight and emotional intelligence. >> incredible. the kind of arc of his moral intelligence is rather incredible. it's rooted in practical principles but shows what motivates people. how their psychies can be damaged, but also uplifted. in that sense you've got to be a major motivator and inspirer and understand what moves your opponent, what moves your enemy, what...
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nelson mandela will be laid to rest this week. charlene hunter-gault who worked for npr during nelson mandela's presidency, and from new york, special correspondent tom brokaw. here is tom back in 1990 interviewing nelson mandela after he was released from prison. it's a great photo. the reverend jesse jackson is here, one of the first people to greet mandela after he was released from prison. what a great day that was. we'll talk about it. and he wrote a book entitled "mandela's way." and charles ogletree who marched for mandela's freedom and subsequently met with him several times. welcome to all of you. it's a great privilege to have this conversation. i want to begin in south africa with charlene hunter-gault and have her set the scene with this national period of mourning and reflection and celebration. good morning, charlene. >> reporter: right now, david, it is pouring down rain, and in south africa rain is a sign of good for tutune, so maybe it is honor of mandela. up until this moment, people have been dancing in the stre
nelson mandela will be laid to rest this week. charlene hunter-gault who worked for npr during nelson mandela's presidency, and from new york, special correspondent tom brokaw. here is tom back in 1990 interviewing nelson mandela after he was released from prison. it's a great photo. the reverend jesse jackson is here, one of the first people to greet mandela after he was released from prison. what a great day that was. we'll talk about it. and he wrote a book entitled "mandela's...
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february 11th, 1990, nelson mandela walked free. his wife at his side. ♪ black south africa erupted in orgy of celebration. >> we begin in south africa where it is welcome home day for nelson mandela. >> good morning, charlie. nelson mandela has been in johannesburg for about 18 hours but his real homecoming when he arrived in soweta in a town he hasn't seen nor 27 years. >> looking back, amazing scenes. the astonishing pictures, four years later in 1994 when fights stood with blacks in line to vote in south africa's first nonracial election, to elect nelson mandela, president. >> he wins them over. he seduces them. >> the book "playing the enemy" was turned in to the movie. there is no better example of how he seduced all races than the day south africa beat new zealand in the 1995 rugby world cup final. >> one common goal. >> rugby had been the white man's sport. the green jersey a symbol of apartheid for blacks. but here was south africa's first black president being cheered as he walked on to the field wearing one. >> it was a
february 11th, 1990, nelson mandela walked free. his wife at his side. ♪ black south africa erupted in orgy of celebration. >> we begin in south africa where it is welcome home day for nelson mandela. >> good morning, charlie. nelson mandela has been in johannesburg for about 18 hours but his real homecoming when he arrived in soweta in a town he hasn't seen nor 27 years. >> looking back, amazing scenes. the astonishing pictures, four years later in 1994 when fights stood...
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>>> this sunday, nelson mandela. a special person whose world course changed world events. >> he was a president that embodied that human beings and countries can change for the better. >> his enduring power is that he showed us there is true freedom in forgiveness. >> we'll look at mandela's life, his policy, and how he handled criticism. it's all part of his enduring legacy. my guests, tom brokaw, civil rights leader reverend jesse jackson. and harry smith talks to poet maya angelou as she mourns a good friend. >> and that's what he brought, was deliverance and ignorance. >> i'll have all that ahead on "meet the press," sunday, december 8. >>> the world's longest running television program, this is "meet the press." >>> and good sunday morning. it is a day of prayer and reflection in south africa as the nation mourns its former president, nelson mandela. flags are also at half staff at the white house this morning. president obama and the first lady will be going to south africa on tuesday. and former presidents ji
>>> this sunday, nelson mandela. a special person whose world course changed world events. >> he was a president that embodied that human beings and countries can change for the better. >> his enduring power is that he showed us there is true freedom in forgiveness. >> we'll look at mandela's life, his policy, and how he handled criticism. it's all part of his enduring legacy. my guests, tom brokaw, civil rights leader reverend jesse jackson. and harry smith talks to...
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coverage of nelson mandela's memorial service. i'm anderson cooper and i'm joined by robin curnow and christiane amanpour. we have a speaker here but it is hard for the people to hear what he is saying. >> they have come to sing and dance and this is a politician who is going to be missed. some have said for the first time in recorded history, a political leader is going to be missed and i think it's really important to state over and over again that he was elected and he stepped down. >> that san extraordinary thing. >> so many african and east asian leaders do not. he gave an example of what democracy is and how you have to have a peaceful, you know, rollover of democracy. >> he could have easily stayed for a second term. >> he didn't want to. >> but he turned things over to thabo mbeki. it wasn't what he wanted but the party of power wanted. >> he had a deep sense of timing and he knew it would give such a great message to africa and the world. he knew when it was over, it was over. >> by the way, we have neglected to say today
coverage of nelson mandela's memorial service. i'm anderson cooper and i'm joined by robin curnow and christiane amanpour. we have a speaker here but it is hard for the people to hear what he is saying. >> they have come to sing and dance and this is a politician who is going to be missed. some have said for the first time in recorded history, a political leader is going to be missed and i think it's really important to state over and over again that he was elected and he stepped down....
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nelson mandela, nelson mandela. the song is one of the most accurate descriptions of this global icon who is the founding president of a free and democratic south africa and also one of the former presidents of the oldest liberation movement in the continent, the a.n.c. his passing has packed and unprecedented outpeg of grief across the world, yet it is grief tinged with with administrations admirations and celebrations. everyone has a nelson mandela moment when he has touched their lives. let us begin before by thanking all heads of states and governments, international delegations, presidents here today. we also extend our deepest gratitude for the messages of condolences that we continue to receive. the mandela family, the south africa people and the african continent as a whole feels stronger today because we have been supported by millions throughout the world. dear south africans, that we are mandiva's compatriots and lived during his time is a cause for a great celebration and enormous pride. never before has
nelson mandela, nelson mandela. the song is one of the most accurate descriptions of this global icon who is the founding president of a free and democratic south africa and also one of the former presidents of the oldest liberation movement in the continent, the a.n.c. his passing has packed and unprecedented outpeg of grief across the world, yet it is grief tinged with with administrations admirations and celebrations. everyone has a nelson mandela moment when he has touched their lives. let...
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we celebrated nelson mandela. pope francis talks about people who find themselves excluded without work or possibilities or any means of escape. i think it's an odd ideology saying the rich work harder when we throw money at them and the poor work harder when we throw less money at them. there's a disconnect there. >> i'm going to have to leave it there. thank you both for your time tonight. >> thanks, rev. >> good to be with you. >>> ahead, what republicans hope you forget about their views on nelson mandela. including the congressman who compared the great leader to willie horton. >>> plus my interview with the star of "mandela: long walk to freedom." idris elba is in the studio tonight. >>> also, want to know how the gop's outreach to women is going? just listen to rush limbaugh's advice on avoiding sexual harassment. >> you walk up to the woman and say, would you please ask your breasts to stop staring at my eyes. try that. might help. >> outrageous. >>> and which lucky republican is the latest to sign up for
we celebrated nelson mandela. pope francis talks about people who find themselves excluded without work or possibilities or any means of escape. i think it's an odd ideology saying the rich work harder when we throw money at them and the poor work harder when we throw less money at them. there's a disconnect there. >> i'm going to have to leave it there. thank you both for your time tonight. >> thanks, rev. >> good to be with you. >>> ahead, what republicans hope you...
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nelson mandela, the leadership lessons he taught. but also how he handled those moments of vulnerability in his personal life. >> we know why we're here. ♪ to connect our forces to what they need, when they need it. ♪ to help troops see danger, before it sees them. ♪ to answer the call of the brave and bring them safely home. [ female announcer ] around the globe, the people of boeing are working together, to support and protect all who serve. that's why we're here. ♪ every day we're working to and to keep our commitments. and we've made a big commitment to america. bp supports nearly 250,000 jobs here. through all of our energy operations, we invest more in the u.s. than any other place in the world. in fact, we've invested over $55 billion here in the last five years - making bp america's largest energy investor. our commitment has never been stronger. i'm bethand i'm michelle. and we own the paper cottage. it's a stationery and gifts store. anything we purchase for the paper cottage goes on our ink card. so you can manage
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everybody says nelson mandela. because he embodies that moral courage, greater even than physical courage, and that ability to put aside his own bitterness, resentness, sacrifice and all that he lost over those 27 years and all the majority of the people there lost in that undignified and appalling racist regime. and built a future of tolerance and democracy. and that is quite incredible. and so people really do say that he is their hero and tributes are being paid from, as you know, from down street, from all over the world. i spoke to f.w. de klerk, the former president. he said that he was a very, very good man to negotiate with. he really respected him. he was surprised the first time he met him because mandela was so tall and dignified and ram rod straight, he said. and they had a decent working relationship. not without its arguments and spats. >> certainly not without that. christiane, bernie, stand by. up next, there's a huge reaction on social media to nelson mandela's death. political figures and celebrit
everybody says nelson mandela. because he embodies that moral courage, greater even than physical courage, and that ability to put aside his own bitterness, resentness, sacrifice and all that he lost over those 27 years and all the majority of the people there lost in that undignified and appalling racist regime. and built a future of tolerance and democracy. and that is quite incredible. and so people really do say that he is their hero and tributes are being paid from, as you know, from down...
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the action by the ten stores where is that nelson mandela to fit the target for two days in nineteen ninety. he presented the word says that the special medal. when can we ever we need on the stuck on the sides have people see it i think what if i have some that we're in the ugandan even know why they are fat and seventy two for tuesday in and so awesome for making them pretty fast and just ain't gonna lucky enough to know about the use of it than just that. it was not a great moment uh uh uh uh they can do it differently it's the stuff that happens to read it and go in because the problems of them. but then mary herself had an immigration to australia and her colleagues men now than to allow suspects to lunch we don't say nothing compared to twelve people he said. he noted owing to what they believe to be on the gothic jobs that whatever the going with me and i don't need or it can mean the kind kind you can stream in the back. orange calmly steered twenty three years on as karen explains today the protest crew. we at sixty cents now and i know we stayed on strike so dark and we got
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, rejected the beatification of nelson mandela. he said i'm no saint. i've made mistakes. i pointed out in my column today, and it was no more harsh than what bill keller pointed out. you know, what mandela -- he was associatesed with people that did the same things to their people, you know, gadhafi, castro that was done to him. and i think that was one moral failing. >> molly, is there something -- a lesson for the people on the american left for coming out of syria? >> i think syria has been an incredible challenge for the american left. on one hand, we want to claim that we are champions of freedom, but on the other hand, we've been incredibly conflicted as to what to do. do you arm the resist anticipate resistance in syria? do you reject anything that has to do with the american military? the american left didn't know. >> esther, molly, michael, thanks a lot. that is "all in" for this evening. we'll be back on monday. good night. >>> soon after nelson mandela was released it from prison in 1990, he came on a tour
, rejected the beatification of nelson mandela. he said i'm no saint. i've made mistakes. i pointed out in my column today, and it was no more harsh than what bill keller pointed out. you know, what mandela -- he was associatesed with people that did the same things to their people, you know, gadhafi, castro that was done to him. and i think that was one moral failing. >> molly, is there something -- a lesson for the people on the american left for coming out of syria? >> i think...
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i said, "nelson mandela." all of us who had the honour of meeting him will go to our graves feeling privileged to be able to say, "yes, i met nelson mandela." 4.5 pm >> it is a great pleasure to follow the right honorable let's president obama attend the funeral of nelson mandela. as well as first lady michelle obama, laura bush, and hillary clinton. we have coverage of the memorial service tomorrow at 4:00 eastern on c-span2. a member of the agricultural and armed services committee. for the business community's we will be joined by john engler, president of the business roundtable. you can call. washington journal is live every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern. >> carl levin came to the floor earlier today to discuss the 2014 program bill. in the past he has tried to take it in order to get the legislation passed. levin was joined by james in half and john mccain. this is 35 minutes. will beresident, senator withhold? >> morning businesses close. the senate will resume consideration. military activities and so forth
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nelson mandela wanted to build a nation united in diversity. at afternoon interfaith service searchesouth africans celebratee unity that nelson mandela provided them. down the road at an indian rally, perusha thanked him for the difference for her children. >> basically madiba made the change. we were basically part of the deprived lot. we had to use only the baths for indian people. >> her husband suffered the same. he remembers being humiliated just for eating dinner. >> we go out in the evening the buy something to eat and we have to say to the guy, sorry do you serve, and you're more than welcome to buy take aways. >> they have no idea what their parents suffered for them which was okay for them. her kids graduated from integrated colleges. one's a doctor, the other training to be a teacher. >> an awesome feeling to have brought up children in the multiracial education society and they've proofed that they can make it out. >> when did you have that opportunity? >> no. >> he's three years old. >> now the family is raising a black child and t
nelson mandela wanted to build a nation united in diversity. at afternoon interfaith service searchesouth africans celebratee unity that nelson mandela provided them. down the road at an indian rally, perusha thanked him for the difference for her children. >> basically madiba made the change. we were basically part of the deprived lot. we had to use only the baths for indian people. >> her husband suffered the same. he remembers being humiliated just for eating dinner. >> we...
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mandela, but i can't help but think how recent it was in history nelson mandela was a contested political figure. we were playing some of the clips in the intro. how do we get from the late 1980s, early 1980s, we have william f. buckley in 1990 saying this will be a day of infamy, maybe. how do we get from there to here? what's happened? >> part of what's happened is mandela, himself, was so effective in demonstrating he was a leader of peace and reconciliation. so the fact that people have stereotyped him into a particular type of violent, dangerous person, thanks, greatly to the propaganda of the apartheid regime, by the way, he was able to transform himself by his very acts. one of the quotes he gave one of my favorite is the courageous do not fear forgiveness for the sake of pales. >> that really embodied his leadership. >> sean, take us back. i think for people who didn't live through and don't remember the political debate we outlined there, that took place in this country in sort of the reagan years ago how did that idea of nelson mandela is this, maybe he deserves to be in jail? m
mandela, but i can't help but think how recent it was in history nelson mandela was a contested political figure. we were playing some of the clips in the intro. how do we get from the late 1980s, early 1980s, we have william f. buckley in 1990 saying this will be a day of infamy, maybe. how do we get from there to here? what's happened? >> part of what's happened is mandela, himself, was so effective in demonstrating he was a leader of peace and reconciliation. so the fact that people...
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. ♪ nelson mandela reminds us that it always seems impossible until it is done. south africa shows that it is true. south africa shows we can change. that we can choose a world depiped not by our differences, but by our common hopes. >> in a stadium built for sporting events gathered a crowd to celebrate the life of one man, nelson mandela. president obama joined dozens of world leaders both past and present, honoring the man that led south africa away from apartheid. inside for the moments honoring mandela. >> 6:00 a.m., in the stadium known as soccer city is quiet and empty, and then suddenly it isn't. the gates open and the energy floods in. pouring rain driving the arrival of the covered upper deck. where they have no problem staying warm. and no doubts about why they are here. >> that will make history. >> 800 miles from cape town to dancing the aisles anyone like this anywhere. so yeah, this is my final. >> in the stadium hallways roving bands of singers sweep people up with it. >> and gather outside in circles of noise and joy. >> we have been asking peopl
. ♪ nelson mandela reminds us that it always seems impossible until it is done. south africa shows that it is true. south africa shows we can change. that we can choose a world depiped not by our differences, but by our common hopes. >> in a stadium built for sporting events gathered a crowd to celebrate the life of one man, nelson mandela. president obama joined dozens of world leaders both past and present, honoring the man that led south africa away from apartheid. inside for the...
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nelson mandela was a hero of our time. i've asked for the flag at number 10 to be flown at half-mast. i'm sure a thought echoed around the globe. and this one, we spoke about the impact of nelson mandela on the world. but his impact left this world. and rightfully so, looking down from the heavens. nasa tweeted, in honor of nelson mandela, who died today, here is an image of south africa from the international space station. it certainly looks, from there, from that vantage point, united. >> it was like a global hug last night on twitter. social media can be used for good. and as you said, nelson mandela spent 27 years of his life in prison. we're going to look, now, at those years. what they were like for him and his family. and the kindness he received from someone you might not expect. one of his prison guards. when nelson mandela was sentenced to life in prison in 1964, he left behind his wife, winnie, and five children. over the 27 years that followed, he held on to his connections with family through these letters. >
nelson mandela was a hero of our time. i've asked for the flag at number 10 to be flown at half-mast. i'm sure a thought echoed around the globe. and this one, we spoke about the impact of nelson mandela on the world. but his impact left this world. and rightfully so, looking down from the heavens. nasa tweeted, in honor of nelson mandela, who died today, here is an image of south africa from the international space station. it certainly looks, from there, from that vantage point, united....
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nelson mandela is at rest. let us now be guided and inspired by the spirit he gave all of us, the flame of human rights, the beaker of hope. nelson mandela fought throughout his life for each and every one of us. it is the duty of all of us who loved him to keep his memory alive in our hearts and to embody his -- in our eyes. may he rest in peace. thank you. thank you very much. >> we just heard from the u.n. secretary general, ban ki-moon. he hit several important themes for the south african people. and some of them were, of course, the rainbow nation, hoping someday the dream is realized as a rainbow world and pointing out that nelson mandela said he wasn't just one man. the crowd loved that, of course. we are waiting for the u.s. president barack obama. he is supposed to be speaking upcoming. right now, we have jim acosta with us. you came with the president, obviously. >> that's right. >> what did you see in terms of security in the process of getting here, what was it like. >> lots of security, chris. the
nelson mandela is at rest. let us now be guided and inspired by the spirit he gave all of us, the flame of human rights, the beaker of hope. nelson mandela fought throughout his life for each and every one of us. it is the duty of all of us who loved him to keep his memory alive in our hearts and to embody his -- in our eyes. may he rest in peace. thank you. thank you very much. >> we just heard from the u.n. secretary general, ban ki-moon. he hit several important themes for the south...
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what do you think the world looks like without nelson mandela or if nelson mandela hadn't decided to pursue the path of justice as ref rand sharpton said the way he did it, who you the world and south africa be different? >> that's a hard question. i have no idea. because remember we honor, rightly, nelson mandela, but there were many soldiers walking with him. some behind him. some in front of him. he always had a critical mass of people to support what he was doing. and so the values that he espoused and articulated was shared by many people although reverend al talks about the tensions within the ranks, mandela still was a part of a movement and he would be the first to tell you that. when i asked him right after he got out of prison, we were sitting in his backyard at the same interview i referred to earlier, well, mr. mandela do you foresee a time where you're the president of this country. he said i belong to a movement and decisions have to be made by the collective. but he probably knew he would be the leader of the country. but, you know, his values were value shared by many
what do you think the world looks like without nelson mandela or if nelson mandela hadn't decided to pursue the path of justice as ref rand sharpton said the way he did it, who you the world and south africa be different? >> that's a hard question. i have no idea. because remember we honor, rightly, nelson mandela, but there were many soldiers walking with him. some behind him. some in front of him. he always had a critical mass of people to support what he was doing. and so the values...
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you talked about nelson mandela. we did not see him for decades because they forbid his pic churs or voice from being heard. now we have the pictures from south africa. when you have children being gunned down, that is very hard to talk about. >> when we come back, what happened when ted cruz try day friday -- tried to remember nelson mandela this week. every day we're working to be an even better company - and to keep our commitments. and we've made a big commitment to america. bp supports nearly 250,000 jobs here. through all of our energy operations, we invest more in the u.s. than any other place in the world. in fact, we've invested over $55 billion here in the last five years - making bp america's largest energy investor. our commitment has never been stronger. [ male announcer ] the rhythm of life. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. [ m'm... ] great taste. [ tapping ] sounds good. campbell's hea
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nelson mandela was the miracle leader of the exceptional place, the rainbow nation, etc., you know, we tell the story and sing "kumbaya", do a little dance. [laughter] one version. and the other version is it's all crap, right? it was all soiled and terrible trick that the nc played. and so i kind of figured i would get pegged as one or the other. rhea milan said i seemed to be immune to pessimism, and i actually take that as a point of ride. also not softheaded or softhearted about what i'm seeing. that's the kind of trip that i tried to make. so the reviews have been quite good. seems to be selling and sort of bracing for that first really brutal review. it hasn't happened yet. >> have you heard from zuma? >> i have heard indirectly from president zuma who gave me a lot of time, eight interviews, more time than anybody else has ever had from him. and i kind of expected, i don't know, actually, what i expected. he's still trying to absorb what he thinks of the portrait that's been drawn of him, is the best way to put it. >> and my final question is, as i read the book, i couldn't help
nelson mandela was the miracle leader of the exceptional place, the rainbow nation, etc., you know, we tell the story and sing "kumbaya", do a little dance. [laughter] one version. and the other version is it's all crap, right? it was all soiled and terrible trick that the nc played. and so i kind of figured i would get pegged as one or the other. rhea milan said i seemed to be immune to pessimism, and i actually take that as a point of ride. also not softheaded or softhearted about...
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. >> the death of nelson mandela signals the end of an era, one dominated by a group of political tie tatans bound by friendship and wanting to create a life for all. >> on nelson mandela's burial, there is a question to be answered, whether a new generation of leaders is able to complete the work begun by those who are now gone. mike hannah, al jazeera, johannesburg. >> joining us for more is shonina moquina who group up in a south africa divided by apartheid. >> thank you. >> when you think about south africa and its future and the future of the anc, what do you think? what are you most concerned about? >> well, you know, the ac has basically two options. they can could not doing more of the same which is continue being the political party it is right now, or it can try to make itself into a party of the 21st century. and so it has to think about the young voters, the people who were born after apartheid, who were born even in the 1990s, who are now the youngest voters in south africa. those are the people it has created strategy for and has to convince to go to the poles and to vot
. >> the death of nelson mandela signals the end of an era, one dominated by a group of political tie tatans bound by friendship and wanting to create a life for all. >> on nelson mandela's burial, there is a question to be answered, whether a new generation of leaders is able to complete the work begun by those who are now gone. mike hannah, al jazeera, johannesburg. >> joining us for more is shonina moquina who group up in a south africa divided by apartheid. >> thank...
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nelson mandela died on decembe december 5. >> thanks. this is a real treat to be here today with the. we are old friends. for those of you not familiar with his work, doug was formerly editor of "mother jones." doug and i are also colleagues at northwestern school of journalism. it's a thrill to be or to talk about his recent book, "after mandela" which i think is a beautifully written account of contemporary south africa. i think a profoundly important book. made we can talk some about the. i think it is profound import not on because it would help us understand what's taking place in south africa but i think it also, it has many lessons for us here in the u.s. as well as elsewhere. as countries emerge from years of tyrannical regime and they're trying to sort of find a way to some kind of democratic government, some kind of democratic system. thought that we would begin may be talking a little bit about mandela investment in use in the hospital now. i think it's fair to say that he is near death, and i always found it interesting, i sa
nelson mandela died on decembe december 5. >> thanks. this is a real treat to be here today with the. we are old friends. for those of you not familiar with his work, doug was formerly editor of "mother jones." doug and i are also colleagues at northwestern school of journalism. it's a thrill to be or to talk about his recent book, "after mandela" which i think is a beautifully written account of contemporary south africa. i think a profoundly important book. made we...
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with mandela. >> he was a close friend of nelson mandela and a fellow activist and one of the first recruits for the african national congress also known as the mk, he was arrested and charged for sabotage for plotting to overthrow the government with mandela and he served time in prison next to mandela on robin island so let's go now live to johannesburg, he by the way is just one of three surviving co-defendants of the revonia trial and we go to the stadium to hear his remarks, andrew. >> we have temporarily lost the feed and we will get that right back to you but i want to turn to ms. moja, he had a key role in the government in the 90s, can you talk a little bit more about it. >> he played a role because they were part of the group that knew one another very well very been together very well and having confidence in one another, almost like we are in a circle, we are confident as people can talk to. so people in south africa really respected him for that and they felt that what they were saying and the advice that was given to the government almost like coleading with his mandela so that
with mandela. >> he was a close friend of nelson mandela and a fellow activist and one of the first recruits for the african national congress also known as the mk, he was arrested and charged for sabotage for plotting to overthrow the government with mandela and he served time in prison next to mandela on robin island so let's go now live to johannesburg, he by the way is just one of three surviving co-defendants of the revonia trial and we go to the stadium to hear his remarks, andrew....